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Episode 361: Chris Alford

As this podcast goes onto the website Chris Alford is closing in on an astonishing 7650 career wins which include 124 Gr 1’s. To put those figures into perspective we should look at the Australian riding record held by NSW jockey Robert Thompson who retired last year with a record of 4447 wins. He’d been riding for 48 years and was 63 years old when he quit the saddle. Chris Alford is approaching 54 and has been race driving for 38 years. When not at the races, the champion reinsman is working horses at home for his trainer wife Alison. He talks about their Bolinda training property.

Chris talks about the massive number of hours he’s spent on the road during his career.

He fondly remembers his late father Barry, a successful trainer and driver in his own right. Barry stood down from the driving duties when his son emerged as a budding talent.

Chris talks of his father’s battle with diabetes and his sad passing 16 years ago.

He talks of his early departure from school to pursue a career in harness racing.

The record breaking driver has never forgotten his first winning drive at Wangaratta and his initial metropolitan success.

Chris acknowledges several fellow drivers for whom he had special admiration and forecasts a bright future for a current Victorian youngster.

We set aside extra time for Alford’s tribute to the great Golden Reign who took the young driver to the big stage. Chris drove the great horse in 26 0f his 28 wins.

He remembers the highs and lows of his long association with the Noel Alexander/ Jayne Davies training team. 

There’s only one horse Chris rates the equal of Golden Reign. In recent years he had the privilege to partner Lennytheshark in 32 of the great pacer’s 39 wins. “Lenny” was the horse to give Chris victory in a Miracle Mile- the race he was beginning to think he’d never win.

He pays a warm tribute to his all time favourite mare Tailamade Lombo. He won 35 races on the Makybe Diva of the harness world. He talks of owner breeder Mick Lombardo who kept coming up with talented horses.

An amazing horse called Mont Denver Gold came into the Alford stable at a time when Barrie’s health was deteriorating rapidly.The pacer was lowly assessed but was to make dramatic improvement. Chris talks of the joy Mont Denver Gold brought to his ailing Dad.

Some trots fans may be surprised with Alford’s very high rating of Blue Eagle.

Chris pays tribute to his favourite horse from the days of his successful association with the Stewart/Tonkin stable.

The champion driver is universally known as “The Puppet”. He talks of the derivation of that curious nickname.

Chris has always had great affection for the “square gaiters”. He acknowledges some of his all time favourite trotters.

He talks affectionately of family- wife Alison, daughter Katie and son Sam. Katie and Alison are “hooked” on horses. Sam can take ‘em or leave ‘em.

This is a wonderful chat with an Australian harness racing icon. He’s in reminiscent mood and as humble as ever.

Episode 360: Michael Hellyer

We introduce a hard working Queensland jockey who more than holds his own in the fiercely competitive Brisbane riding ranks. Michael reflects on a milestone win at a recent Gold Coast meeting- his 700th since his riding career began under amazing circumstances.

Michael acknowledges the emergence of young trainer Indiana Turner who was in the winner’s circle for the first time.

The jockey says he had no idea about his upcoming career milestone until he heard other jockeys talking about a new on line service.

 

He says the Queensland riding ranks are as strong as they’ve been in years.

 

Michael takes us back to the day he bought his first car in Wollongong. He was attracted to some racing photos on the wall in the car dealer’s office.

He talks of his enrolment in a Racing NSW/Tafe course at Orange NSW.

Michael looks back on work experience with Dubbo trainer Peter Nestor and his initial indentureship to Wade and Doreen Slinkard at Hawkesbury.

He looks back on subsequent apprenticeships at Orange and Kembla Grange.

He says his first day as a professional jockey was a complete disaster.

Michael tells the story of his first winning ride. He noticed a jockey hadn’t been declared for a horse at a Sapphire Coast meeting. He rang for the ride and a dream came true.

The jockey outlines his next move- a “loan out” to Port Macquarie trainer Wayne Wilkes. He looks back on one disastrous ride. The horse won but Michael takes no credit.

He remembers the day he met Linda Parker at the Grafton races- a young lady who was destined to become his wife. Michael talks of his next move to Murwillumbah where his future father-in-law Col Parker was training a team of racehorses.

The jockey looks back on a Sunshine Coast win for the Parker stable which attracted the attention of trainer Pat Duff. Before he knew it Michael was working for Duff at his Deagon stables.

He speaks fondly of his final boss, the late Kelso Wood who he regarded as a master trainer and a great supporter.

The thirty four year old talks of his wife Linda and daughter Everly who’s coming up seven years of age. 

Michael reflects on the thrill of winning a South East Queensland apprentice’s premiership in the 2009/2010 season.

He acknowledges the support of trainer David Vandyke and his great association with top filly Baccarat Baby.

Michael reflects on some talented horses he’s been lucky enough to ride in recent years.

He explains why he chooses to chase his own rides rather than use the services of a jockey manager.

Michael pays tribute to one of his Brisbane role models. It’s a nice chat with the jockey whose career was motivated by the photos on the wall at the Oak Flats car dealership. 

Episode 359: Bill Prain

Great to catch up with Bill Prain who called it quits in 2018 when his great friend and valued client Fred Peisah succumbed to illness. Bill had been adamant for some time that he’d retire if ever Fred left the racing industry. He talks of Peisah’s unwavering loyalty over three decades.

Now in retirement on the Gold Coast, Bill says he’s still an avid race watcher.

He talks of childhood days in Parramatta, and the nickname bestowed upon him by his mother- a nickname he’s never been able to shake.

Bill talks of his father Col, a former bush jockey in Queensland. Prain Snr had always hoped one of the family would follow in his footsteps.

Bill remembers his original apprenticeship to Vic Thompson Snr at Rosehill. The tiny apprentice became disillusioned after two years and looked for a change of stables. You won’t believe the luck that came his way.

Twelve months later Bill had his first race ride at Gosford. He had the race won won two strides from home.

Just when he was thinking he’d never ride a winner, Prain was given an opportunity by trainer Tom Kennedy. Not many apprentices win their first race at a Sydney metropolitan Saturday meeting. 

Bill talks of the first metropolitan winner he rode for his boss Theo Green. Some time later he got to “strap” the same horse when several overseas jockeys rode in an international event at Rosehill. Colisee Star won the race for an Italian jockey with a famous name.

Bill talks of his wonderful association with Hawkesbury trainer, the late Tom Sewell. He recalls the heady days when he would accompany Sewell to country carnivals with a truckload of horses. They had some good times.

He hasn’t forgotten one unforgettable day at Wyong when Sewell had three runners for three winners. Bill was rewarded with the biggest “sling” of his racing career.

Bill talks of his marriage to Julie Herford in 1980 and a move to Wagga where he regenerated his riding career. He received tremendous support and was riding winners all over the region when the unthinkable happened. He was outed for twelve months on a “running and handling” charge at Bathurst. His unblemished record saw it cut in half.

He talks of his last winning ride at Randwick in 1987, and a change of direction. He went to work for a while in the hospitality industry.

Bill talks of his return to racing as stable foreman for Bernie Kelly who had just started as private trainer to Fred Peisah at Warwick Farm. Soon after Bill was stunned when offered the trainer’s role following Kelly’s sudden resignation.

The popular horseman talks of Fred’s Lomar Park Stud at Werombi where he stood a succession of successful stallions. Bill got to train many of the progeny of those stallions.

Bill reflects on a few of the special horses to race under the Lomar Park banner, with special acknowledgement of the bonny filly Moment’s Pleasure. A shocking draw hindered her chances in the Golden Slipper.

He talks of a valued association with a very young Corey Brown.

Bill remembers another brilliant little filly called Regal Chamber who won the Magic Night Stakes before running a “blinder” for third in the Golden Slipper. Like Moment’s Pleasure she was disadvantaged by a horror draw.

During this era Billy chose to ignore some ominous symptoms of impending ill health. Dragged to the Doctor by wife Julie, he was stunned to learn that he had colon cancer. The disease had already spread to other areas. Emergency surgery arrested the immediate problem but he wasn’t out of the woods yet.

Bill has a stern message to anybody who might choose to ignore tell tale symptoms.

He talks of the ongoing ordeal of chemotherapy injections.

Now 71 years of age and twenty five years after his initial diagnosis, Billy Prain realises he’s one of the lucky ones. He acknowledges the tremendous support of Julie and his three daughters during the dark days of his illness.

The popular horseman talks of his three special daughters and the grandchildren who address him by the nickname he was given by his mother all those years ago. It was a delight to catch up with Billy Prain.

Episode 358: John Muir

With the 2022 Inglis Easter Sale upon us we thought it timely to chat with long time vendor John Muir. The former high profile car dealer runs Milburn Creek, a boutique breeding farm at Wildes Meadow on the Southern Highlands. John begins by talking about the 2018 sale of the landmark Muir’s Motors  dealership on Parramatta Rd. Ashfield. 

John reveals that his late father Les Muir had predicted the intrusion of an underground road link. 

He talks of his father’s early connection with General Motors Holden which in the 1950’s commanded a major percentage of the Sydney car market. 

John looks back on childhood days in a house situated right on the car yard.

He recalls teaching himself to ride on an uncle’s pony. Later he got to ride a pony owned by a Randwick horse trainer who didn’t think much of his style in the saddle. He talks of an early work experience stint with a legendary horse trainer.

John predictably joined Muir’s Motors but got no favours. He remembers some of the thankless jobs his father gave him to do.

He was 18 when Les Muir helped him to launch his own dealership just up the road at Fivedock. Looking for a different niche in the Sydney market, John dealt in imported American cars only. 

He eventually made a modest entry into the horse breeding business. He talks of the very first broodmare he ever purchased.

John clearly remembers his second mare purchase under very unusual circumstances. He bought a pregnant mare called Safest whose filly foal would become one of his foundation matrons. He later sold a colt from Safest destined to become his first Randwick winner as a breeder. That colt later came back into his life.

He talks of his first breeding farm situated on Milburn Creek near Cowra. His commercial thoroughbred enterprise has carried the name of that creek ever since.

John talks of his move closer to Sydney in 1986. He transformed a run down Grose Vale dairy farm into a state of the art horse breeding property. It was around this time he bought a well bred filly as a potential broodmare. He decided to race Chez Paree for a couple of years with great results.

He recalls his purchase Old Fernbrook Farm at Wildes Meadow in 2000 as the site of his new breeding base. He  later added two adjacent properties  which have enabled him to expand the operation.

John acknowledges a number of Milburn Creek graduates who’ve gone on to notable racetrack achievements.

The respected breeder relates the fascinating story of the weanling filly he bought with the intention of reselling her the following year. He got “left” with the daughter of Dubawi. John raced Secret Admirer himself with stunning results.

He talks of the Dundeel colt out of Secret Admirer who’ll be one of his nine horse draft at the Inglis Easter sale.

John makes mention of another eight yearlings to be offered for sale under the Milburn Creek banner.

He talks of a long and happy association with Inglis. He regards this year’s catalogue as one of the best he’s seen.

John closes with tributes to wife Trish, son Matthew, daughters Meredith and Amelia and seven grandchildren. A laid back chat with one of racing’s good guys.

Episode 357: Robert Morris

Great to catch up with Robert Morris, one of Australia’s busiest harness racing drivers. The thirty year old has driven 100 winners or more on NSW tracks for the past ten seasons.

Rob’s wife Kerry Ann trains a 50 horse team at Menangle, and is already a two time premiership winner. She takes her horses where they have the best chance of earning prize money. Robert talks of his role as Kerry Ann’s stable driver.

He explains his duties in the day to day running of the successful stable.

Rob’s been around the money many times on the premiership ladder. He believes his time will come.

He pays tribute to the training and driving talents of his wife.

The young reinsman looks back on his upbringing in the harness racing sport, and the influence of his father Peter Morris. He says he was intimidated by Peter’s reputation as one of the best drivers of his generation.

Rob’s mother Margaret gets the acknowledgement she so richly deserves.

Young Morris speaks glowingly of son Archie (6) and daughter Stella (11 months). He says Archie is already obsessed with horses.

Rob has never forgotten his first winning drive at Penrith in 2008. He says his mother was very vocal in the grandstand.

Early in his career Rob received great support from Menangle trainers. He pays a special tribute to David Wilkins who got him up and going with a cranky filly called Bonnie Mahoney.

He’s never forgotten his first Harold Park win on the Wilkins trained Virage. He says a Harold Park win meant the world to up and coming young drivers.

Rob looks back on a memorable day at Menangle when he was just 18 years old. He drove four winners including two Gr 1’s.

He reflects on another Gr 1 win on Blissfull Guy at Menangle in 2012. He lost this one in the steward’s room.

Predictably he sings the praises of the evergreen Karloo Mick, the horse he rates as the best he’s driven. He drove the veteran into second place in a Miracle Mile. Rob says he had a few quirks but was competitive in the best company.

Rob looks back on the serious ankle injury sustained in a Penrith fall. He was on the sidelines for many months.

A nice yarn with a young bloke who’s going to be among Sydney’s best drivers for a long time to come.

Episode 356: Colin Little

When Colin Little walked away from his Caulfield training base late last year, he knew that retirement wasn’t too far away. He intended to keep training at Pakenham in the immediate future, but an ironic twist of fate intervened. Early in March he made the snap decision to relinquish his licence. He joins us on the podcast to explain the reason for his hasty departure. 

Colin talks of his attachment to Caulfield where he was born, and would spend his entire racing life.

He reflects on the riding career of his jockey father Bill Little, who was one of many Australian jockeys to ride in India in the 1930’s and 40’s.

He looks back on his own original apprenticeship to Rod Turvey and a subsequent transfer to a former champion jockey who was getting his training career under way in Melbourne.

Col admits his riding career was brief and unspectacular.

He pays tribute to the legendary Caulfield trained racehorse Lord who dominated weight for age racing in Melbourne in the late 50’s and early 60’s. Caulfield track regulars were in awe of him.

 

Col’s training career started on a hobby basis. He would work a horse or two at first light before dashing off to his day job.

He vividly remembers the thrill of training his first winner at Traralgon. It was a mare with a masculine name. In winning his first metropolitan race, he helped a famous jockey to win a premiership.

You can hear the admiration in Col’s voice when he talks of Testimony- the horse who launched his training career. Testimony won an amazing 13 city races.The horse was part owned by Joan Herman who became a very valued client for the Little stable.

Colin pays tribute to his late wife Jacqui who died much too soon. He says Jacqui’s artistic touch enabled them to renovate an old Caulfield home which nowadays has heritage listing. 

The retired trainer pays a fitting tribute to his once in a lifetime horse El Segundo. He takes us through the ups and downs in the career of a horse whose four Gr 1 wins includes a W.S. Cox Plate in 2007.

Col reflects on the veteran stayer who arrived at his place from Adelaide. Ista Kareem raced on for another two and a half years in Colin’s care winning 6 races including a Sydney Cup.

He talks of Blutigeroo, another second hand horse with whom he’d win the Gr 1 BMW at Rosehill. He picked up a Hobart Cup along the way.

Colin pays tribute to some of the brilliant jockeys who rode for the stable over the years.

He says he’ll be closely monitoring the career of one of his favourites Vassilator. Col won five races with the chestnut, all at Flemington. He sent the horse to Lisa Jones at Somerville when he made the call to retire.

It’s a farewell chat with the man they once called “Mr Caulfield.”

 

Episode 355: Bob Lapointe

Bob Lapointe was just 26 years old and didn’t know a soul when he arrived in Australia in 1967. Within a few years he’d become the king of fast food dining in this country. He ventured into varied business interests including horse racing. It wasn’t long before he was leaving his mark on the turf. We caught up with Bob at his beloved Muskoka Farm which he established more than fifty years ago. With a tinge of sadness Bob reveals that he and his wife Wendy will soon be moving on.

Bob takes us back to his early life in Canada and an enrolment in a Hotel, Resort and Restaurant Administration course at Ryerson Uni. He talks of his early interest in the hospitality industry.

He has never forgotten his first meeting with Kentucky Fried Chicken founder Colonel Sanders. He says the colourful character had a huge impact on his life.

Bob says he owned eight KFC stores at home before he left for Australia with a brief to launch the concept here. He recalls feeling very intimidated when he stepped off the plane in Sydney.

Bob’s first job was to lock in a regular supply of chickens. He’s never forgotten his first meeting with Jack and Bob Ingham who were still operating from their original office at Casula.

The entrepreneurial Canadian looks back on a succession of alternative dining concepts around Australia- Pizza Hut, Sizzler and Lone Star Steakhouses. 

Bob looks back on his early involvement in the racing industry. He founded Doncaster Bloodstock and appointed the late Les Young to run the business. It was Les who became his chief adviser in the buying and selling of thoroughbreds. Doncaster Bloodstock started with a bang at the Adelaide sales. 

A major investment for Bob was the purchase of the state of the art Nebo Lodge training complex at Rosehill. The now defunct establishment was created by Stan Fox. Bob talks of his approach to one of the world’s biggest racehorse owners Robert Sangster. He persuaded Sangster to join him in the Nebo Lodge venture.

He recalls the appointment of young Queenslander Brian Mayfield-Smith as Nebo lodge trainer. The arrival of the new conglomerate shook Sydney racing to its foundations. In his very first season, Mayfield-Smith deposed Tommy Smith after a 33 year reign as Sydney’s champion trainer.

Bob looks back on the unique fundraising concept he created in conjunction with Lone Star Restaurants. The Variety Club of Australia benefited greatly in a five year period.

He remembers Iron Horse, the best to carry the Lone Star colours. He reveals that the great old gelding is still hale and hearty in his 30th year.

Bob pays tribute to an elite group of horses he had the good fortune to race with friends and associates.

He acknowledges the talents of his wife Wendy who is a skilled veterinarian and a successful horse trainer. Wendy has also played a major role in the management of Muskoka’s well known training tracks.

This is a wonderful trip down memory lane with a remarkable 80 year old who applied his innate business skills to horse racing with spectacular results. 

Episode 354: Gary Kliese

Gary Kliese has been a fixture on the Skychannel service from NSW northern tracks for 23 years. He was appointed and tutored by Graham McNeice who remains his greatest supporter. Gary begins by sharing his sadness about the recent flooding which has seriously impacted his hometown of Ballina.

He remembers the fateful phone call to Graham McNeice which resulted in a career after race riding. 

He talks of the many tracks to which he travels to present Sky’s race day service, and the time he spends on form analysis between race meetings.

Gary’s travel schedule is punishing. He usually returns home to Ballina when his Sky commitments are completed.

He pays tribute to the participants who are happy to join him on air to discuss the prospects of their horses.

He pays a special tribute to regular co-host Priscilla Looker. Gary also acknowledges the contribution of Melinda Graham who filled in during Priscilla’s absence on maternity leave.

Back to his riding days, and Gary talks of his apprenticeship to the late Bruce McLachlan.

He shares the story of McLachlan’s plan to give his apprentice a first up win. Torrential rain on the Gold Coast brought the plan undone, but the story had a happy ending.

Gary looks back with dismay on a twelve months disqualification which continues to be a thorn in his side.

His first day back in the saddle had a fairy tale ending.

The former talented jockey expresses his admiration for the skills of Henry Davis- the man he regards as the best trainer he ever knew. He looks back on a winner he rode for Davis at Eagle Farm.

Gary reflects on his marriage to Jenny Powell in 1981 and a move to Ballina to escape Brisbane’s powerful riding ranks.

He talks of sons Luke and Brad who were always too big to be jockeys but made their marks as horsemen in other pursuits.

Gary talks of his flying start on the northern rivers and the Murwillumbah race fall which should never have happened. A knee injury put him on the sidelines for twelve months.

When he resumed, the new season was already two months in. He looks back on the sensational winning run which saw him get up to win his first NRRA premiership.

He started the next season with a flurry of winners but then lady luck turned her back again. Gary graphically describes the most freakish of accidents which put him out for another twelve months. He talks of a chance meeting with an eminent orthopaedic surgeon.

You’ll love Gary’s story about the show horse he rode every day to strengthen his leg before a return to race riding. The horse happened to be a thoroughbred but had never raced. Mr. Kliese changed all of that.

He talks of another two NRRA premierships, and pays tribute to his two favourite northern rivers trainers. He also acknowledges the jockeys for whom he had special admiration.

We take Gary back to his early days in Brisbane when he got to ride some very smart horses. He rates his favourites.

The sixty one year old reflects with sadness on the loss of sister Lorraine and brother Raymond in 1992. The siblings died only six months apart.

Gary sends a cheerio to sister Narelle in Maroochydore and brother Graham who’s still booting home the winners in north Queensland.

Gary Kliese was still riding regular winners in 1996 when another bizarre accident brought down the curtain on a career he loved. His mount Lukawae snapped a foreleg in the straight at Coffs Harbour and speared his jockey to the track. Another runner crashed over the top of Lukawae and landed on top of the hapless Kliese. He was left with no feeling from the neck down. His account of the aftermath is pretty distressing.

Gary finishes on a bright note as he reflects on eleven years as a Ballina Jockey Club Committeeman, three of those years as Chairman.

This is a laid back chat with one of Sky Racing’s most respected presenters and a former jockey of considerable talent.

Episode 353: Kerry Parker

Great to catch up with the popular Kembla Grange trainer who is enjoying a magical ride with Think It Over, the horse rated by many as Australia’s most improved galloper. He begins by heaping praise on Kembla Grange as a training centre, but doesn’t dismiss the possibility of a move to town if the right opportunity comes along.

Kerry talks of Think It Over’s first win for the stable in a Cl 2 at Hawkesbury. The horse was unimpressive in winning and had to be spelled immediately.

He reviews Think It Over’s second preparation in which he won a BM88 at Randwick and ran respectable races in strong grade.

Kerry talks of the gelding’s quirky habits at that stage of his career.

The trainer looks back on the first of Think It Over’s two Craven Plate wins and his tremendous run in The Gong on his hometrack.

Kerry delights in looking at the gelding’s stunning winning sequence in the Autumn of 2021 highlighted by the Gr 1 George Ryder Stakes.

He expresses his shock and disappointment when veterinary surgeons ordered the horse’s withdrawal from the Doncaster. He’d sustained the most minor of abrasions on the trip to Randwick. Kerry is still in disbelief a year on.

The trainer then concentrated on the Queen Elizabeth Stakes in which Think It Over ran a cracking fourth in elite company.

Kerry discusses his reasons for passing up the Sydney Carnival to run in the Australian Cup.  

He talks of Think It Over’s first two runs back from a spell which includes an Apollo Stakes win.

Kerry takes us back to early days when he learned about horses at his father’s Kangaroo Valley trail riding property. He reminisces about his days as a trackwork rider for several stables including one in Adelaide.

The trainer looks back on a wonderful five year stint with master trainer Les Bridge who sent him to Melbourne with Drawn for a couple of important assignments. He’s never forgotten the trip.

Kerry talks about his return to the South Coast and a job with David Vandyke. Not long after he applied for his own trainer’s licence.

He acknowledges a few special horses who helped to get him up and running in his solo career. He makes special mention of his Queensland Derby winner Dark Dream. He was devastated when the horse was sold to Hong Kong. 

Kerry talks of the bread and butter horses who’ve kept the stable ticking over. 

He highlights a three year old filly for whom he’s predicting a bright future.

Episode 352: Brian Forrester

Great to catch up with 88 year old Brian Forrester, one of the elite harness drivers of his generation. NZ born Forrester learned his craft from master Christchurch trainer George Noble before going on to work for several leading horsemen. He fondly remembers his first winning drive at Blenheim, and his initial metro win at Addington.

Brian pays tribute to two close relatives who emerged from World War 2 with distinction.

He’s never forgotten a frightening trip to Sydney in mountainous seas on the cargo ship Wanganella. He had six horses to look after on the Tasman crossing.

Brian recalls his first meeting with trainer Max Truer, a man who would have a tremendous influence on his career.

He looks back on an A.G. Hunter Cup win on the Truer trained Stormy Bruce.

Brian recalls the circumstances under which the Tasmanian pacer Chamfer Star found his way into the Truer stable at Bankstown.

The champion reinsman looks back on his unforgettable clean sweep of the 1966 Inter Dominion at Sydney’s Harold Park with the nine year old Chamfer Star. The weather was atrocious.

Brian acknowledges several special horses he got to drive during his stellar career. One of them was the legendary mare Robin Dundee. 

He looks back on a wonderful association with Fran Donohue, the only female trainer to win a Harold Park premiership. Brian was Fran’s stable driver throughout that season.

Brian reflects on a NSW driver’s title which he says he won by default.

He pays tribute to the drivers he most admired during his career.

Although best known as a top freelance driver, Brian enjoyed a great deal of success as a trainer in his own right. He talks of some special horses who helped him along the way.

He enjoyed a stint in the great trotting town of Leeton in the late 1970’s. He recalls the experience.

The champion reinsman talks of the vision impairment which ended his race driving career in the mid nineties.

After quitting the sulky Brian worked for several Warwick Farm gallops trainers. He remained active for another twenty five years. He acknowledges those trainers and talks about a frightening kick to the head he received from a thoroughbred mare.

Brian and his wife Coral are the parents of six children. He brings us up to date with the whereabouts of the Forrester clan.

The typically humble Forrester says he never regarded himself as an elite driver. Those who competed with him, and thousands of trot fans vehemently disagreed. Great to yarn with a legendary trotting horseman.